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Post  Alessandro Fri Dec 12, 2008 1:51 am

Simulation n.00

Values of the used parameters:

Power of the laser125W
Finesse FP AdVirgo885
Emissivity cold surface1.0
Emissivity covering and substrate
0.89
Inner beam cold surface0.150m
Beam of the mirror
0.175m
Thickness cold surface
0.025m
Distance cold surface from the coating0.010m
Length cold surface0.300m
Temperature cold surface200K
Temperature mirror295K
Angle between axis mirror and cold surface0.0°
Scheme base of the simulation:

TCS Radiative Cooling Schema10

Course of the temperature in 3D:

TCS Radiative Cooling Temp3d17

The used data belong to the file “ss.txt” produced from ANSYS.

Course of the temperature along the beam:

TCS Radiative Cooling Temp_r10

"Yi" (depth) is the coordinate of the "nodes" of the ANSYS elements.
Every curve represents the course of the temperature to varying of the beam of the mirror.
Every curve belongs to a fixed coordinate "Yi". This generates of the just discontinuities between the succession of curves.

The curve more low corresponds to the course of the temperature on the surface of the mirror interacting with the laser.
We can notice a not favorable course. In fact, considering the surface of the mirror hit from the laser, the
temperature value smaller is not found to the center of the surface.
This could depend from the temperature of the surface of base of the cold surface.

Course of the temperature along the depth:

TCS Radiative Cooling Temp_p10

In this case every curve has like fixed parameter coordinate "Xi".
Not there are unfavorable courses, to the center of the mirror and on
the surface of the mirror hit from the laser the temperature is more
low.
To increasing of beam ("Xi") the temperature increases with an acceptable course.

Successive steps of simulation:

  1. Reduction of the disturbance of the temperature of the surface of base of the cold surface.
  2. Control of the points of the diagram 3D.
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TCS Radiative Cooling Empty Simulation n.01

Post  Alessandro Fri Dec 12, 2008 11:21 pm

Simulation n.01

Values of the used parameters:

Power of the laser125W
Finesse FP AdVirgo885
Emissivity cold surface1.0
Emissivity covering and substrate
0.89
Inner beam cold surface0.175m
Beam of the mirror
0.175m
Thickness cold surface
0.005m
Distance cold surface from the coating0.010m
Length cold surface0.300m
Temperature cold surface200K
Temperature mirror295K
Angle between axis mirror and cold surface0.0°
Scheme base of the simulation:

TCS Radiative Cooling Schema12

Course of the temperature in 3D:

TCS Radiative Cooling Temp3d18

The used data belong to the file “ss.txt” produced from ANSYS.
Not there are improvements.

Course of the temperature along the beam:

TCS Radiative Cooling Temp_r11

The course remains not favorable.
Al center of the mirror on the surface of the mirror hit from the
laser, in the Sim01, the temperature turns out greater regarding that
of the Sim00.

Course of the temperature along the depth:

TCS Radiative Cooling Temp_p11

Observations:

  1. The cooling effect is smaller of about 1K.
  2. The temperature of the base of the cold surface has a negligible effect in the Sim00 and the Sim01.
Successive steps of simulation:

  1. Variation of the angle between axis mirror and cold surface.
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TCS Radiative Cooling Empty Simulation n.02

Post  Alessandro Tue Dec 16, 2008 7:40 pm

Simulation n.02

Values of the used parameters:

Power of the laser125W
Finesse FP AdVirgo885
Emissivity cold surface1.0
Emissivity covering and substrate
0.89
Inner beam cold surface0.150m
Beam of the mirror
0.175m
Thickness cold surface
0.025m
Distance cold surface from the coating0.010m
Length cold surface0.300m
Temperature cold surface200K
Temperature mirror295K
Angle between axis mirror and cold surface20.0°
Course of the temperature along the beam:

TCS Radiative Cooling Temp_r12


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TCS Radiative Cooling Empty Simulation n.03

Post  Alessandro Tue Dec 16, 2008 7:46 pm

Simulation n.03

Values of the used parameters:

Power of the laser125W
Finesse FP AdVirgo885
Emissivity cold surface1.0
Emissivity covering and substrate
0.89
Inner beam cold surface0.150m
Beam of the mirror
0.175m
Thickness cold surface
0.025m
Distance cold surface from the coating0.010m
Length cold surface0.150m
Temperature cold surface200K
Temperature mirror295K
Angle between axis mirror and cold surface20.0°
Course of the temperature along the beam:

TCS Radiative Cooling Temper10
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TCS Radiative Cooling Empty Simulation n.04

Post  Alessandro Tue Dec 16, 2008 8:00 pm

Simulation n.04

Values of the used parameters:

Power of the laser125W
Finesse FP AdVirgo885
Emissivity cold surface1.0
Emissivity covering and substrate
0.89
Inner beam cold surface0.200m
Beam of the mirror
0.175m
Thickness cold surface
0.025m
Distance cold surface from the coating0.010m
Length cold surface0.400m
Temperature cold surface200K
Temperature mirror295K
Angle between axis mirror and cold surface0.0°
Course of the temperature along the beam:

TCS Radiative Cooling Temper11


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TCS Radiative Cooling Empty Simulation n.05

Post  Alessandro Tue Dec 16, 2008 8:05 pm

Simulation n.05

Values of the used parameters:

Power of the laser125W
Finesse FP AdVirgo885
Emissivity cold surface1.0
Emissivity covering and substrate
0.89
Inner beam cold surface0.175m
Beam of the mirror
0.175m
Thickness cold surface
0.025m
Distance cold surface from the coating0.030m
Length cold surface0.400m
Temperature cold surface200K
Temperature mirror295K
Angle between axis mirror and cold surface0.0°
Course of the temperature along the beam:

TCS Radiative Cooling Temper12
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TCS Radiative Cooling Empty Simulation n.06

Post  Alessandro Tue Dec 16, 2008 10:41 pm

Simulation n.06

Values of the used parameters:

Power of the laser125W
Finesse FP AdVirgo885
Emissivity cold surface1.0
Emissivity covering and substrate
0.89
Inner beam cold surface0.175m
Beam of the mirror
0.175m
Thickness cold surface
0.025m
Distance cold surface from the coating0.100m
Length cold surface0.400m
Temperature cold surface200K
Temperature mirror295K
Angle between axis mirror and cold surface7.0°
Course of the temperature along the beam:

TCS Radiative Cooling Temper13
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TCS Radiative Cooling Empty Simulation n.07

Post  Alessandro Tue Dec 16, 2008 10:42 pm

Simulation n.07

Values of the used parameters:

Power of the laser125W
Finesse FP AdVirgo885
Emissivity cold surface1.0
Emissivity covering and substrate
0.89
Inner beam cold surface0.175m
Beam of the mirror
0.175m
Thickness cold surface
0.025m
Distance cold surface from the coating0.100m
Length cold surface0.400m
Temperature cold surface200K
Temperature mirror295K
Angle between axis mirror and cold surface-5.0°
Course of the temperature along the beam:

TCS Radiative Cooling Temper14
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TCS Radiative Cooling Empty Simulation n.08

Post  Alessandro Tue Dec 16, 2008 10:44 pm

Simulation n.08

Values of the used parameters:

Power of the laser125W
Finesse FP AdVirgo885
Emissivity cold surface1.0
Emissivity covering and substrate
0.89
Inner beam cold surface0.200m
Beam of the mirror
0.175m
Thickness cold surface
0.025m
Distance cold surface from the coating0.060m
Length cold surface0.400m
Temperature cold surface200K
Temperature mirror295K
Angle between axis mirror and cold surface5.0°
Course of the temperature along the beam:

TCS Radiative Cooling Temper15
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TCS Radiative Cooling Empty Simulation n.09

Post  Alessandro Tue Dec 16, 2008 10:46 pm

Simulation n.09

Values of the used parameters:

Power of the laser125W
Finesse FP AdVirgo885
Emissivity cold surface1.0
Emissivity covering and substrate
0.89
Inner beam cold surface0.200m
Beam of the mirror
0.175m
Thickness cold surface
0.025m
Distance cold surface from the coating0.060m
Length cold surface0.400m
Temperature cold surface200K
Temperature mirror295K
Angle between axis mirror and cold surface0.0°
Course of the temperature along the beam:

TCS Radiative Cooling Temper16
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TCS Radiative Cooling Empty Simulation n.10

Post  Alessandro Tue Dec 16, 2008 10:47 pm

Simulation n.10

Values of the used parameters:

Power of the laser125W
Finesse FP AdVirgo885
Emissivity cold surface1.0
Emissivity covering and substrate
0.89
Inner beam cold surface0.200m
Beam of the mirror
0.175m
Thickness cold surface
0.025m
Distance cold surface from the coating0.060m
Length cold surface0.800m
Temperature cold surface200K
Temperature mirror295K
Angle between axis mirror and cold surface0.0°
Course of the temperature along the beam:

TCS Radiative Cooling Temper17
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TCS Radiative Cooling Empty Simulation n.11

Post  Alessandro Tue Dec 16, 2008 10:49 pm

Simulation n.11

Values of the used parameters:

Power of the laser125W
Finesse FP AdVirgo885
Emissivity cold surface1.0
Emissivity covering and substrate
0.89
Inner beam cold surface0.150m
Beam of the mirror
0.175m
Thickness cold surface
0.025m
Distance cold surface from the coating0.060m
Length cold surface0.800m
Temperature cold surface200K
Temperature mirror295K
Angle between axis mirror and cold surface0.0°
Course of the temperature along the beam:

TCS Radiative Cooling Temper18

Observations:

  1. Better course between sim00 and the sim11, effect of cooling in decrease.
  2. We must verify the course with the method of the fit.
Successive steps:


  1. To continue with the simulations.
  2. Study of the file " sstru.txt" , ROC, optical way, " coupling losses".
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TCS Radiative Cooling Empty Next steps

Post  Alessio Fri Jan 09, 2009 2:13 pm

My opinion is that the next steps should follow this order:
1) Optical Path Lenght calculation
2) Coupling Losses calculation
3) Structural analisys (calculation of the TM ROC)
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TCS Radiative Cooling Empty Development OPL - In Sim00

Post  Alessandro Tue Mar 10, 2009 5:45 pm

Setting Sim00.
Variation of the parameter T of the cooling system.
The minimum values for the OPL are in bold.

T(K)|Diff-OPL(m)|
max

Increase-OPL(m)
max/min
2300.4500e-5
(-1.50/-1.90)e-5
2602.0000e-6
(-8.50/-10.60)e-6
280
1.0000e-6
(-3.80/-4.50)e-6
2842.6016e-7
(-2.70/-3.20)e-6
285
2.7011e-7
(-2.45/-2.86)e-6
286
2.9049e-7
(-2.15/-2.55)e-6
2873.1301e-7
(-1.90/-2.20)e-6
2883.3810e-7
(-1.53/-1.85)e-6
2904.0000e-7
(-8.00/-12.00)e-7
2924.5000e-7
(-0.50/-5.00)e-7
TCS Radiative Cooling Immagi14


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TCS Radiative Cooling Empty Development OPL - In SimNoCooling

Post  Alessandro Tue Mar 10, 2009 6:14 pm

Presence of the laser.
Room temperature.

T(K)Diff-OPL(m)
max

Increase-OPL(m)
min/min
2957.4e-7
(3.6/11.0)e-7
TCS Radiative Cooling Immagi18
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TCS Radiative Cooling Empty ROC - Fit in: No Cooling/Laser - NoCooling - and Sim00

Post  Alessandro Wed Mar 11, 2009 4:29 pm

Estimation of ROC:
T is the temperature of the cooling system

Formula used in this fit: F(x) = a*X^2 + b*X + c
(the values of b are negligible)

Formula for calculating the ROG: ROC = 1/(2a)

T(K)Setting
ROC (m)

No - Laser
No-Cooling
1416.029

Yes - Laser
No-Cooling
1413.227
(-2.802)
284
Sim00:
Yes - Laser
Yes-Cooling
1395.478
(-20.551)
292
Sim00:
Yes - Laser
Yes-Cooling
1314.405
(-101.624)
For a T = 292K, the variation of ROC is too high!


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TCS Radiative Cooling Empty OK

Post  Alessio Thu Mar 12, 2009 11:55 am

Ok Alessandro. It seems you are converging.
Three things:

  1. it is ROC (Radius Of Curvature), not ROG
  2. the function used to evaluate the ROC is wrong: there must be no linear term F(x)=aX2+c
  3. Coupling losses!
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TCS Radiative Cooling Empty Something strange

Post  Alessio Thu Mar 12, 2009 8:52 pm

Alessandro wrote:
T(K)Setting
ROC (m)

No - Laser
No-Cooling
1416.029

Yes - Laser
No-Cooling
1413.227
(-2.802)
284
Sim00:
Yes - Laser
Yes-Cooling
1395.478
(-20.551)
292
Sim00:
Yes - Laser
Yes-Cooling
1314.405
(-101.624)
I gave a better look at this table. There is something strange. The ROC should increase when the YAG only is on (row 3). How can it be that the ROC is smaller when the cooling system is less cold(rows 4 and 5)?
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TCS Radiative Cooling Empty Correction Table ROC

Post  Alessandro Fri Mar 13, 2009 1:30 am

The problem was the linear term of the formula used in the fit.

Here are the correct values:

T(K)Setting
ROC (m)

No - Laser
No-Cooling
1416.029

Yes - Laser
No-Cooling
1422.879
(+6.850)
284
Sim00:
Yes - Laser
Yes-Cooling
1406.074
(-9.955)
292
Sim00:
Yes - Laser
Yes-Cooling
1418.037
(+2.008)
Now the change in the ROC is more acceptable.
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TCS Radiative Cooling Empty Observation

Post  Alessandro Tue Apr 28, 2009 3:52 pm

With TM: T=295K and Cylinder: T0=294K I noticed that:
- If we exclude the laser the effect of cooling has an acceptable performance!
- The ROC (fit: 1415.23 m) is good!

Conclusion:
- The method of cooling is functional;
- The temperature has a parabolic distribution over the surface of the mirror, but it is not Gaussian!

Next Steps:
- New simulations with successive increments of the power of laser;
- see the limit of operation of the cooling system, depending on the laser power;
- Possible application of the method of directional cooling.
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