TCS Radiative Cooling
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TCS Radiative Cooling
Simulation n.00
Values of the used parameters:
Scheme base of the simulation:
Course of the temperature in 3D:
The used data belong to the file “ss.txt” produced from ANSYS.
Course of the temperature along the beam:
"Yi" (depth) is the coordinate of the "nodes" of the ANSYS elements.
Every curve represents the course of the temperature to varying of the beam of the mirror.
Every curve belongs to a fixed coordinate "Yi". This generates of the just discontinuities between the succession of curves.
The curve more low corresponds to the course of the temperature on the surface of the mirror interacting with the laser.
We can notice a not favorable course. In fact, considering the surface of the mirror hit from the laser, the
temperature value smaller is not found to the center of the surface.
This could depend from the temperature of the surface of base of the cold surface.
Course of the temperature along the depth:
In this case every curve has like fixed parameter coordinate "Xi".
Not there are unfavorable courses, to the center of the mirror and on
the surface of the mirror hit from the laser the temperature is more
low.
To increasing of beam ("Xi") the temperature increases with an acceptable course.
Successive steps of simulation:
Values of the used parameters:
Power of the laser | 125W |
Finesse FP AdVirgo | 885 |
Emissivity cold surface | 1.0 |
Emissivity covering and substrate | 0.89 |
Inner beam cold surface | 0.150m |
Beam of the mirror | 0.175m |
Thickness cold surface | 0.025m |
Distance cold surface from the coating | 0.010m |
Length cold surface | 0.300m |
Temperature cold surface | 200K |
Temperature mirror | 295K |
Angle between axis mirror and cold surface | 0.0° |
Course of the temperature in 3D:
The used data belong to the file “ss.txt” produced from ANSYS.
Course of the temperature along the beam:
"Yi" (depth) is the coordinate of the "nodes" of the ANSYS elements.
Every curve represents the course of the temperature to varying of the beam of the mirror.
Every curve belongs to a fixed coordinate "Yi". This generates of the just discontinuities between the succession of curves.
The curve more low corresponds to the course of the temperature on the surface of the mirror interacting with the laser.
We can notice a not favorable course. In fact, considering the surface of the mirror hit from the laser, the
temperature value smaller is not found to the center of the surface.
This could depend from the temperature of the surface of base of the cold surface.
Course of the temperature along the depth:
In this case every curve has like fixed parameter coordinate "Xi".
Not there are unfavorable courses, to the center of the mirror and on
the surface of the mirror hit from the laser the temperature is more
low.
To increasing of beam ("Xi") the temperature increases with an acceptable course.
Successive steps of simulation:
- Reduction of the disturbance of the temperature of the surface of base of the cold surface.
- Control of the points of the diagram 3D.
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Simulation n.01
Simulation n.01
Values of the used parameters:
Scheme base of the simulation:
Course of the temperature in 3D:
The used data belong to the file “ss.txt” produced from ANSYS.
Not there are improvements.
Course of the temperature along the beam:
The course remains not favorable.
Al center of the mirror on the surface of the mirror hit from the
laser, in the Sim01, the temperature turns out greater regarding that
of the Sim00.
Course of the temperature along the depth:
Observations:
Values of the used parameters:
Power of the laser | 125W |
Finesse FP AdVirgo | 885 |
Emissivity cold surface | 1.0 |
Emissivity covering and substrate | 0.89 |
Inner beam cold surface | 0.175m |
Beam of the mirror | 0.175m |
Thickness cold surface | 0.005m |
Distance cold surface from the coating | 0.010m |
Length cold surface | 0.300m |
Temperature cold surface | 200K |
Temperature mirror | 295K |
Angle between axis mirror and cold surface | 0.0° |
Course of the temperature in 3D:
The used data belong to the file “ss.txt” produced from ANSYS.
Not there are improvements.
Course of the temperature along the beam:
The course remains not favorable.
Al center of the mirror on the surface of the mirror hit from the
laser, in the Sim01, the temperature turns out greater regarding that
of the Sim00.
Course of the temperature along the depth:
Observations:
- The cooling effect is smaller of about 1K.
- The temperature of the base of the cold surface has a negligible effect in the Sim00 and the Sim01.
- Variation of the angle between axis mirror and cold surface.
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Simulation n.02
Simulation n.02
Values of the used parameters:
Course of the temperature along the beam:
Values of the used parameters:
Power of the laser | 125W |
Finesse FP AdVirgo | 885 |
Emissivity cold surface | 1.0 |
Emissivity covering and substrate | 0.89 |
Inner beam cold surface | 0.150m |
Beam of the mirror | 0.175m |
Thickness cold surface | 0.025m |
Distance cold surface from the coating | 0.010m |
Length cold surface | 0.300m |
Temperature cold surface | 200K |
Temperature mirror | 295K |
Angle between axis mirror and cold surface | 20.0° |
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Simulation n.03
Simulation n.03
Values of the used parameters:
Course of the temperature along the beam:
Values of the used parameters:
Power of the laser | 125W |
Finesse FP AdVirgo | 885 |
Emissivity cold surface | 1.0 |
Emissivity covering and substrate | 0.89 |
Inner beam cold surface | 0.150m |
Beam of the mirror | 0.175m |
Thickness cold surface | 0.025m |
Distance cold surface from the coating | 0.010m |
Length cold surface | 0.150m |
Temperature cold surface | 200K |
Temperature mirror | 295K |
Angle between axis mirror and cold surface | 20.0° |
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Simulation n.04
Simulation n.04
Values of the used parameters:
Course of the temperature along the beam:
Values of the used parameters:
Power of the laser | 125W |
Finesse FP AdVirgo | 885 |
Emissivity cold surface | 1.0 |
Emissivity covering and substrate | 0.89 |
Inner beam cold surface | 0.200m |
Beam of the mirror | 0.175m |
Thickness cold surface | 0.025m |
Distance cold surface from the coating | 0.010m |
Length cold surface | 0.400m |
Temperature cold surface | 200K |
Temperature mirror | 295K |
Angle between axis mirror and cold surface | 0.0° |
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Simulation n.05
Simulation n.05
Values of the used parameters:
Course of the temperature along the beam:
Values of the used parameters:
Power of the laser | 125W |
Finesse FP AdVirgo | 885 |
Emissivity cold surface | 1.0 |
Emissivity covering and substrate | 0.89 |
Inner beam cold surface | 0.175m |
Beam of the mirror | 0.175m |
Thickness cold surface | 0.025m |
Distance cold surface from the coating | 0.030m |
Length cold surface | 0.400m |
Temperature cold surface | 200K |
Temperature mirror | 295K |
Angle between axis mirror and cold surface | 0.0° |
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Simulation n.06
Simulation n.06
Values of the used parameters:
Course of the temperature along the beam:
Values of the used parameters:
Power of the laser | 125W |
Finesse FP AdVirgo | 885 |
Emissivity cold surface | 1.0 |
Emissivity covering and substrate | 0.89 |
Inner beam cold surface | 0.175m |
Beam of the mirror | 0.175m |
Thickness cold surface | 0.025m |
Distance cold surface from the coating | 0.100m |
Length cold surface | 0.400m |
Temperature cold surface | 200K |
Temperature mirror | 295K |
Angle between axis mirror and cold surface | 7.0° |
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Simulation n.07
Simulation n.07
Values of the used parameters:
Course of the temperature along the beam:
Values of the used parameters:
Power of the laser | 125W |
Finesse FP AdVirgo | 885 |
Emissivity cold surface | 1.0 |
Emissivity covering and substrate | 0.89 |
Inner beam cold surface | 0.175m |
Beam of the mirror | 0.175m |
Thickness cold surface | 0.025m |
Distance cold surface from the coating | 0.100m |
Length cold surface | 0.400m |
Temperature cold surface | 200K |
Temperature mirror | 295K |
Angle between axis mirror and cold surface | -5.0° |
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Simulation n.08
Simulation n.08
Values of the used parameters:
Course of the temperature along the beam:
Values of the used parameters:
Power of the laser | 125W |
Finesse FP AdVirgo | 885 |
Emissivity cold surface | 1.0 |
Emissivity covering and substrate | 0.89 |
Inner beam cold surface | 0.200m |
Beam of the mirror | 0.175m |
Thickness cold surface | 0.025m |
Distance cold surface from the coating | 0.060m |
Length cold surface | 0.400m |
Temperature cold surface | 200K |
Temperature mirror | 295K |
Angle between axis mirror and cold surface | 5.0° |
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Simulation n.09
Simulation n.09
Values of the used parameters:
Course of the temperature along the beam:
Values of the used parameters:
Power of the laser | 125W |
Finesse FP AdVirgo | 885 |
Emissivity cold surface | 1.0 |
Emissivity covering and substrate | 0.89 |
Inner beam cold surface | 0.200m |
Beam of the mirror | 0.175m |
Thickness cold surface | 0.025m |
Distance cold surface from the coating | 0.060m |
Length cold surface | 0.400m |
Temperature cold surface | 200K |
Temperature mirror | 295K |
Angle between axis mirror and cold surface | 0.0° |
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Simulation n.10
Simulation n.10
Values of the used parameters:
Course of the temperature along the beam:
Values of the used parameters:
Power of the laser | 125W |
Finesse FP AdVirgo | 885 |
Emissivity cold surface | 1.0 |
Emissivity covering and substrate | 0.89 |
Inner beam cold surface | 0.200m |
Beam of the mirror | 0.175m |
Thickness cold surface | 0.025m |
Distance cold surface from the coating | 0.060m |
Length cold surface | 0.800m |
Temperature cold surface | 200K |
Temperature mirror | 295K |
Angle between axis mirror and cold surface | 0.0° |
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Simulation n.11
Simulation n.11
Values of the used parameters:
Course of the temperature along the beam:
Observations:
Values of the used parameters:
Power of the laser | 125W |
Finesse FP AdVirgo | 885 |
Emissivity cold surface | 1.0 |
Emissivity covering and substrate | 0.89 |
Inner beam cold surface | 0.150m |
Beam of the mirror | 0.175m |
Thickness cold surface | 0.025m |
Distance cold surface from the coating | 0.060m |
Length cold surface | 0.800m |
Temperature cold surface | 200K |
Temperature mirror | 295K |
Angle between axis mirror and cold surface | 0.0° |
Observations:
- Better course between sim00 and the sim11, effect of cooling in decrease.
- We must verify the course with the method of the fit.
- To continue with the simulations.
- Study of the file " sstru.txt" , ROC, optical way, " coupling losses".
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Next steps
My opinion is that the next steps should follow this order:
1) Optical Path Lenght calculation
2) Coupling Losses calculation
3) Structural analisys (calculation of the TM ROC)
1) Optical Path Lenght calculation
2) Coupling Losses calculation
3) Structural analisys (calculation of the TM ROC)
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Development OPL - In Sim00
Setting Sim00.
Variation of the parameter T of the cooling system.
The minimum values for the OPL are in bold.
Variation of the parameter T of the cooling system.
The minimum values for the OPL are in bold.
T(K) | |Diff-OPL(m)| max | Increase-OPL(m) max/min |
230 | 0.4500e-5 | (-1.50/-1.90)e-5 |
260 | 2.0000e-6 | (-8.50/-10.60)e-6 |
280 | 1.0000e-6 | (-3.80/-4.50)e-6 |
284 | 2.6016e-7 | (-2.70/-3.20)e-6 |
285 | 2.7011e-7 | (-2.45/-2.86)e-6 |
286 | 2.9049e-7 | (-2.15/-2.55)e-6 |
287 | 3.1301e-7 | (-1.90/-2.20)e-6 |
288 | 3.3810e-7 | (-1.53/-1.85)e-6 |
290 | 4.0000e-7 | (-8.00/-12.00)e-7 |
292 | 4.5000e-7 | (-0.50/-5.00)e-7 |
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ROC - Fit in: No Cooling/Laser - NoCooling - and Sim00
Estimation of ROC:
T is the temperature of the cooling system
Formula used in this fit: F(x) = a*X^2 + b*X + c
(the values of b are negligible)
Formula for calculating the ROG: ROC = 1/(2a)
For a T = 292K, the variation of ROC is too high!
T is the temperature of the cooling system
Formula used in this fit: F(x) = a*X^2 + b*X + c
(the values of b are negligible)
Formula for calculating the ROG: ROC = 1/(2a)
T(K) | Setting | ROC (m) |
No - Laser No-Cooling | 1416.029 | |
Yes - Laser No-Cooling | 1413.227 (-2.802) | |
284 | Sim00: Yes - Laser Yes-Cooling | 1395.478 (-20.551) |
292 | Sim00: Yes - Laser Yes-Cooling | 1314.405 (-101.624) |
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OK
Ok Alessandro. It seems you are converging.
Three things:
Three things:
- it is ROC (Radius Of Curvature), not ROG
- the function used to evaluate the ROC is wrong: there must be no linear term F(x)=aX2+c
- Coupling losses!
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Something strange
I gave a better look at this table. There is something strange. The ROC should increase when the YAG only is on (row 3). How can it be that the ROC is smaller when the cooling system is less cold(rows 4 and 5)?Alessandro wrote:
T(K) Setting ROC (m) No - Laser
No-Cooling1416.029 Yes - Laser
No-Cooling1413.227
(-2.802)284 Sim00:
Yes - Laser
Yes-Cooling1395.478
(-20.551)292 Sim00:
Yes - Laser
Yes-Cooling1314.405
(-101.624)
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Correction Table ROC
The problem was the linear term of the formula used in the fit.
Here are the correct values:
Now the change in the ROC is more acceptable.
Here are the correct values:
T(K) | Setting | ROC (m) |
No - Laser No-Cooling | 1416.029 | |
Yes - Laser No-Cooling | 1422.879 (+6.850) | |
284 | Sim00: Yes - Laser Yes-Cooling | 1406.074 (-9.955) |
292 | Sim00: Yes - Laser Yes-Cooling | 1418.037 (+2.008) |
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Observation
With TM: T=295K and Cylinder: T0=294K I noticed that:
- If we exclude the laser the effect of cooling has an acceptable performance!
- The ROC (fit: 1415.23 m) is good!
Conclusion:
- The method of cooling is functional;
- The temperature has a parabolic distribution over the surface of the mirror, but it is not Gaussian!
Next Steps:
- New simulations with successive increments of the power of laser;
- see the limit of operation of the cooling system, depending on the laser power;
- Possible application of the method of directional cooling.
- If we exclude the laser the effect of cooling has an acceptable performance!
- The ROC (fit: 1415.23 m) is good!
Conclusion:
- The method of cooling is functional;
- The temperature has a parabolic distribution over the surface of the mirror, but it is not Gaussian!
Next Steps:
- New simulations with successive increments of the power of laser;
- see the limit of operation of the cooling system, depending on the laser power;
- Possible application of the method of directional cooling.
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